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|dougma||02:09||taxilian_away: re casting to JSAPIPtr, i figured there was nothing that could be done if the browser decided to wrap up my object (for whatever reason (maybe out-of-process reasons?))
so i had to work-around
...id-numbers instead of JSAPIPtrs. ugly.
|vmk_||10:09||I want to access local filesystem through a plugin which be used on IE, Firefox, Safari & Chrome
Does firebreath provide any special interface for file I/O or I shall use the standard fstream lib?
|taxilian||10:09||if he'd stay for longer than 15 minutes I could have helped him|
|kylehuff||10:09||or longer than 2 minutes at least...|
|Sajty||11:09||hi! Is it possible to run the shut down event in background?|
|taxilian||11:09||what do you mean?|
|Sajty||11:09||on shutdown, I'm joining the threads.
which takes time
and the browser freezes until it completes
|taxilian||11:09||no, you really need to stop all threads before it finishes shutting down your plugin|
|VJ||11:09||If I develop a firebreath plugin to access the local file system, I can use it on all the major browsers without modifications right?|
|Sajty||11:09||basically I start shut down in background on the detach event, but shut down is called immediatelly.|
|taxilian||11:09||one caveat; IE w/ protected mode (Win Vista/7 w/ UAC enabled) will restrict where you can write to
VJ: other than that, yes
In case the user is logged in as an admisitrator s/he shall not face this problem right?
|taxilian||11:09||if UAC is on, you will face that problem in Win7/Vista
I dont' care what the user is
Google cliams that Peeper C API is more efficient and platform independent than NPAPI
What is the difference?
|taxilian||11:09||well, for one thing Pepper C API doesn't actually exist
and has been dropped in favor of NaCl
|VJ||11:09||Ok. What are the advantages of using NPAPI over NaCl?|
|taxilian||11:09||well, NaCl only works on Chrome, for one thing
though they may have a plugin that would make it function on other browsers
other than that, NaCl is in a sandbox, but I'm not clear on the extent of the sandbox; it isn't adequate for most of what I need, so I haven't looked into it much
NaCl doesn't allow direct driver access, for example
you'd have to look at it more
|VJ||11:09||Ok. In case of my file access plugin which I want to reuse it on all the major browsers, which approach you recommend?|
NaCl is still pretty young
then again, they just did a major release; you could look into it
|VJ||11:09||ok cool, thanks.|
|taxilian||11:09||I don't know enough to recommend it; I know what you want to do can be done with FireBreath|
|VJ||11:09||Cool. That's helpful. I will go for Firebreath!!
I mean opt for
|taxilian||11:09||cool. good luck!
I'm headed to lunch; be back a bit later
|Sajty||12:09||is it possible to let the plugin alive, until browser shutdown(and not until last instance closed)? Or is the shutdown event forced by the browser after last instance closed?|
you guys help about firebreath, I am new
okay, never mind.. bye bye
|taxilian||13:09||Sajty: you can use staticinitialize and staticdeinitialize
as long as you aren't holding any references to the browser host
|Sajty||13:09||yeah, that was my first approach, with weak pointers, but for some reasons on linux I get boost asserts when joining threads.
on windows it works there.
|taxilian||13:09||your plugin object *must* shut down before the plugin instance is destroyed|
|Sajty||13:09||yeah, thats why I used weak pointers. They can shut down separated from the plugin.|
|taxilian||13:09||yes; but remember that the pointer itself is subject to cross-thread race conditions|
|Sajty||13:09||you mean the weak pointer?|
|taxilian||13:09||weak and shared both
the reference counting is atomic, so should be threadsafe, but destruction is not threadsafe
so if it is destroyed on one thread while a weak_ptr is being locked on another thread you get a race condition
|Sajty||13:09||so if I would make a lock around the weak pointers and the instance destroying it would work?|
|taxilian||13:09||I don't know; it might|
|Sajty||13:09||I will try that later
|taxilian||13:09||I'm not familiar enough with your code to say for sure, but it sounds like a reasonable thing to try|
|Guest4003||13:09||does anyone know how you can force a particular plugin to be used, if more than one plugin registers that mime type?|
|taxilian||13:09||not really; the selection order varies by browser|
|Guest4003||13:09||i mean, without deleting/deactiving any plugins
that's what I thought from all my googling
|FireBreathBot||14:09||JIRA issue http://jira.firebreath.org/browse/FIREBREATH-128 issue commented by victorabrash "FYI, In my plugin (not FBTestPlugin) I notice that events from the main thread get to the browser..."
JIRA issue http://jira.firebreath.org/browse/FIREBREATH-128 issue commented by richard "... interesting. that's very useful to know. I hoped to look at it today, but I'm behind on a maj..."
|Guest66827||15:09||your videos page, ironically, say a plugin is missing
but I have flash installed...
|taxilian||15:09||I don't know
it works for me
it's all youtube content
|Guest66827||15:09||<object classid="clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000" codebase="https://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=6,0,0,0" data="/download/attachments/2162830/FB Tutorial Mac Pt 1.swf" height="530" type="application/x-shockwave-flash2-preview" width="770"> <param name="play" value="false"> <param name="autostart" value="false"> <param n
seems to point to a cab - which is windows
works in a windows vm
|taxilian||15:09||I don't have that probelm
it works fine for me
it's just a youtube embed tag, so I don't know
|Guest66827||15:09||question about NSAPI - if it's something like Flash, does it output audio to a stream the browser provides?|
|taxilian||15:09||sorry, I'm on a call
be back in a bit