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vipul_ 12:09 anyone here developing plugins for chrome with firebreath
can i get some links that might be of help??
taxilian 12:09 .ask
FireBreathBot 12:09 If you need help, just ask your question and wait for people to come back.
taxilian 12:09 vipul_: Certainly, I'm happy to give you links that might be of help. http://www.firebreath.org is a great one
vipul_ 12:09 thanks for the sarcasm..I will search harder in the forums..
taxilian 12:09 the sarcasm was intended to convey a point
not to chase you away
our ability to help is restricted to our understanding of your problem
based on what you ask, that's the best help I can give you
but really, the link I gave you is a much better place to search than the forums, most likely
hard to say, since I haven't the slightest idea what you're trying to do… other than develop a plugin, which is what www.firebreath.org is dedicated to teaching you about
vipul_ 12:09 I am a newbie.I am planning to make a simple chrome extension that will integrate my application with chrome when clicked on a link..Since Activex Objects cannot be used,I figured we have to use NPAPI...and firebreath seems a easy way to work..
taxilian 12:09 quite reasonable
and what exactly are you looking for?
vipul_ 13:09 I am not able to figure out how firebreath is useful in my case
taxilian 13:09 it is possible that it isn't; why do you need NPAPI specifically?
are you aware of the differences between a plugin and an extension?
.extension
vipul_ 13:09 yeah i am aware of that
I will tell you exactly..
I need to integrate my download manager with google chrome...
so that i get a right click menu on links to download using the download manager
and since java script alone cannot be used in chrome to achieve calling an external application...I need NPAPI plugin to call the application if thats correct..
taxilian 13:09 again, that sounds reasonable
do you understand how a NPAPI plugin works?
not all the internal details
but how you would work with it in a page
vipul_ 13:09 No I read your blog colonelpanic..but I still have my doubts
taxilian 13:09 put as simply as possible, a plugin goes in an object tag
you can then call methods and properties on the object tag
clear?
vipul_ 13:09 Yes...that seems easy.
taxilian 13:09 moderately so, yes
the tricky part is writing the plugin
but with FireBreath it's not that bad
vipul_ 13:09 So i have installed it in my system...
But not sure how to proceed from there..
taxilian 13:09 so now that you know a bit more what you're trying to do, I recommend you go read some of the pages from the first link I sent you and then let me know when you have questions that aren't already answered on the front page
like "how do I get started" (well, technically the link on the front page is actually "Getting Started", but close enough, don't you think?
vipul_ 13:09 ok thanks for your valuable time...my question seems stupid to me after reading the link
taxilian 13:09 hehe. no problem
there is nothing wrong with not knowing something… I have just found that if I don't make people learn how to find it, I spend all my time answering questions that they could have answered themselves
when you do have a question that you can't find there, please don't hesitate to ask
vipul_ 13:09 one more thing...
taxilian 13:09 and as a thank-you you're encouraged to update the wiki so that others can find it =]
vipul_ 13:09 how much time do you think it would take me to write the program
because my requirement is fairly simple as i mentioned before
taxilian 13:09 I have no idea. if all you're doing is writing somethign that will launch an external application, it would probably only take me a few hours
but it may take you longer than that
create an example plugin and play with it a bit; that'll give you a better idea of how things work
the source of the example plugin has a lot of documentation as well
look at the examples
in short, read the getting started page =]
vipul_ 13:09 i was planning to complete it today itself...anyhow will start working right away!!
taxilian 13:09 scratch to working plugin in one day? Well, with FireBreath it may be possible
vipul_ 13:09 can i have your email id ??
taxilian 13:09 without you'd not have a prayer, IMO
nope, but you are welcome to pop in here any time or leave a message on the forums
I check both regularly
I also monitor the firebreath tag on stackoverflow
vipul_ 13:09 Ok seems fair..
taxilian 13:09 personal emails don't leave traces where others can benefit from the response
which means more time I have to spend answering the same questions instead of fixing code problems =]
I'm cranky that way
vipul_ 13:09 I can totally understand...And if i get my work done,I will surely contribute.
taxilian 13:09 I appreciate that =] good luck!
vipul_ 13:09 thanks..
taxilian 13:09 I'll probably be on here for most of the day, but I do have some other engagements this evening
vipul_ 13:09 I will be back if i am stuck....Appreciate the help.
taxilian 13:09 yw
_Vipul 14:09 @taxilian--Successfully built the example project...Playing around with it..And i am able to figure out how to proceed from here.. :)
taxilian 14:09 oh, good =]
we try to keep things as simple as can practically be done
_Vipul 14:09 It must have taken a lot of time to make something like this!!I can never be this good a programmer
taxilian 14:09 how long have you been programming?
_Vipul 14:09 4 years now...
taxilian 14:09 well, give it another 16 years or so to catch up with me and if you're serious about it I'm sure you could be ;-)
actually, my first many years of programming I was just doing little play stuff
so I don't think it'd take you nearly that long
FireBreath is a little less than 2 years old, though, so the project has been going for awhile
it really is surprising what you can build, though, if you just plan a little and take it one step at a time
_Vipul 15:09 Somehow i got disconnected from the chat..was not able to send or recieve chats anymore..
ominjn
taxilian 15:09 weird
not sure if you got my responses to your comment, then:
well, give it another 16 years or so to catch up with me and if you're serious about it I'm sure you could be
2:55:04
actually, my first many years of programming I was just doing little play stuff
2:55:09
so I don't think it'd take you nearly that long
2:55:26
FireBreath is a little less than 2 years old, though, so the project has been going for awhile
2:57:50
it really is surprising what you can build, though, if you just plan a little and take it one step at a time
_Vipul 15:09 It was easy to build...
instructions are loud and clear...
mostly i did research work in matlab...I am good with image processing and worked to develop some algorithms for scale space invariance...
I am planning to make a windows application relating to it..So learning C# and making extensions
_Vipul 15:09 Just one more thing...
The build is working fine without WDK.
Why is that required...or Is it not
taxilian 15:09 it is only required if you're using VS express edition
which doesn't come with ATL
_Vipul 15:09 Oh yeah..Mine comes with ATL
taxilian 15:09 which means it isn't vs express
_Vipul 15:09 Yes i have ultimate
_Vipul 16:09 Hi again...
I was working with firefox till now and it was perfectly fine...
But the plugins are not getting registered in Chrome
Looked into forums but everyone seems to get it working...
Any suggestions...
taxilian 16:09 you're installing with regsvr32?
_Vipul 16:09 yes
taxilian 16:09 I don't know, then
Chrome should find it the same way
_Vipul 16:09 The plugin is visible in firefox
it should be there in the list right,even if i don't use it in my extension?
taxilian 16:09 it should be in about:plugins, yes
_Vipul 16:09 This is annoying...It is registering perfectly fine in firefox
Any ideas on this?
taxilian 16:09 I don't know
Chrome must not be configured correctly, or something
did you completely quit and open it again?
_Vipul 16:09 yes i did..
taxilian 16:09 I don't know, then
_Vipul 16:09 Anyhow let me update it and restart my computer
_Vipul 16:09 It worked:)
i was using prep2010x64 previously...just used prep2010 and it registered
taxilian 16:09 oh
why were you using 64?
that worked on firefox?
well, I gotta run; I wouldn't have expected a 64 bit build to work on anything other than IE 64 bit; you want 32 bit unless you know a specific reason otherwise
good luck