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|kalev||04:09||taxilian_away: you guess you meant issue 64|
|taxilian||07:09||kalev: I did indeed =] thanks
I sure appreciate you taking that one; it would have taken me a lot longer to track it all down
|kalev||07:09||happy to help
so, planning to release 1.2 today?
|taxilian||07:09||planning to tomorrow
but my time it is Wed morning 7:45am
I need to test and finish the cross-thread calls today to make sure they are ready
|kalev||07:09||oh, that's early.
it's 4:48pm here
gotta love timezones
throw std::runtime_error("Cannot find HTML window");
how did that get in there?
it should (obviously) be the other way around
I will fix it =]
|kalev||09:09||I already did :)|
|taxilian||09:09||yep, I see it
well doen =]
I never use that function, so I missed it
|amackera||12:09||Compiling a static library into a program only copies the code that is actually *used* by the application, right? Or does it include the entire library into the executable (or DLL in the case of NPAPI plugins)?|
|taxilian||12:09||depends on the linker
but should be true for the ones we're using
just pulls in the code that is needed
for the record: I hate troubleshooting templates
Haha yes me too
the most cryptic errors always somehow originate from tempaltes
|taxilian||12:09||"Failed to specialize function template"
gee, that was helpful
|amackera||12:09||"Failed because MUAHAHAH!"|
Georg is trying to help me track it down, but....
still going very very slow
|taxilian||13:09||so I think this threading stuff will go into 1.2.1 or 1.3
trying to decide if that's a significant enough feature to justify making it 1.3
'course, if I throw in the security model at the same time it probably is
|kalev||13:09||yeah, we already have plenty of great stuff for 1.2|
|taxilian||13:09||and it is long past time to deploy another release
there are people still using 1.0, for heaven's sake
|taxilian||13:09||anyone see any reason not to start the release process now?|
|kalev||13:09||current trunk works nicely for me|
|taxilian||13:09||sounds like nikita has signed off on it
thanks to your fix, Kalev
for 1.3 there's also amackera's windowsless branch
it would be awesome to get that in
|amackera||13:09||That sounds reasonable
we have lots of quality stuff for 1.2, got to save *some* features for 1.3 :D
|amackera||14:09||taxilian: i'll write a blog post for FB, but nobody really reads my blog :P
still, it can't hurt
|taxilian||14:09||when you post it, send me the URL and I will put a link to it from FireBreath
sorry, from my colonelpanic.net blog post
|amackera||15:09||Sure, sounds good|
|taxilian||15:09||kalev, amackera: do you want your screen name or full name on the "thanks" page on my blog post?|
full name plz :) (Anson MacKeracher)
full name please
|taxilian||15:09||Kalev Lember, right?|
|taxilian||15:09||since I'm having a hard time remembering everything, tell me what you've contributed
(not that I've forgotten it, just so it's easier for me not to miss anything important)
|kalev||15:09||I have contributed just small fixes, nothing major|
|amackera||15:09||I did Mac support for Cocoa, CoreGraphics and CoreAnimation|
|taxilian||15:09||schnapple and schmoo are different people, right?
nirvdrum: what name do you want on the credits page, and what have you contributed? (save me some time, here)
|nirvdrum||15:09||No need for credits. I haven't gotten anything merged in yet. But, I have a patch for the Windows version required for Win32 API compatibility (was set to something ridiculously old) and something to upgrade boost.
Other than that, I've just been a pain in the ass on the mailing list.
|taxilian||15:09||lol. activity on the mailing list is never a bad thing
even if I just list you as "Testing", what name do you want? nirvdrum, or real name?
If you want to put (nirvdrum) after it, that's fine, too.
I'm not all that picky :-)
|taxilian||15:09||that's what I've been doing|
|nirvdrum||15:09||I used to be really pedantic about name formatting when I was younger and thought it mattered.|
|taxilian||15:09||any chance you could post something nice about FireBreath somewhere tomorrow? blog post, twitter, website...|
I've pimped you out on Twitter before, but can do it again.
A blog post would be hard, but it's something I'd like to do at some point.
|taxilian||15:09||awesome. what is your twitter username?|
|taxilian||15:09||wow, never would have thought to try that
I am nailixat
|nirvdrum||15:09||I'm nothing if not consistent.|
|taxilian||15:09||can you believe that taxilian was taken?|
|nirvdrum||15:09||I tried once to move to kmenard, something more "professional", but I have so much history with "nirvdrum" that it just wasn't worth it.
Most of my code contributions, IRC, mailing list activity, etc. are all with "nirvdrum." So, I'm stuck with it :-P
Also "nirvdrum" on XBox Live if anyone plays Call of Duty :-)
ok, look over it and let me know what I should change =] http://colonelpanic.net/2010/09/a-year-in-the-life-of-a-plugin-project-firebreath-1-2-released/
it is not on the web page yet
|taxilian||15:09||drat… there has to be a way I can publish it so that it's not on the home page, but visible to people I send it to
darn. pull it up, let me know, and i'll hide it again :-P
wt… still not working
imgs are busted
|nirvdrum||15:09||Still a 404 for me.|
|kalev||16:09||antiix -> anttix|
|amackera||16:09||looks good taxilian_away|
|nirvdrum||16:09||Well, now I get password page.|
|taxilian||16:09||password is 1234
images should be fixed now
if anyone can think of sites we could submit FireBreath to to get more attention, that would be good as well
sites like slashdot, ajaxian, etc
|nirvdrum||16:09||I have a little link karma there.|
|taxilian||16:09||hey, anything you guys can do to get word out when I push this would be awesome|
|nirvdrum||16:09||" and links to it on the NPAPI newsgroup." <-- reads funny.
I read "links" as a verb, not a plural noun.
|taxilian||16:09||ok; I will check that
I'm not much of a writer, but it's all we have
so let's see if it is enough to get us any attention
|nirvdrum||16:09||"What as more" => "What was more" ?|
|nirvdrum||16:09||If you're not interested in copy fixes, let me know.|
|nirvdrum||16:09||I get some sort of sick pleasure out of editing.|
|taxilian||16:09||someone else is doing the same thing|
|nirvdrum||16:09||"you could build a windows plugin with it " <-- Do you mean the OS or as in window-based plugin?
Oops. Next section indicates OS.
My bad. Capitalization would likely help.
|nirvdrum||16:09||Casing on the OS names alternates in the article. Sometimes "linux", sometimes "Linux."
"company contact Georg and I" => "... George and me"
|kalev||16:09||antiix => anttix|
|amackera||16:09||When is one supposed to use "and I" vs "and me"?|
|nirvdrum||16:09||amackera: "I" is when it's the subject. "me" is when it's a direct object.
nominative VS accusative case.
|taxilian||16:09||yeah, I actually know that|
|nirvdrum||16:09||The simplest way to check is if it's "X and I" just remove the "X and" and see if it still makes sense.|
|taxilian||16:09||I just don't remember it when I write =]|
|nirvdrum||16:09||taxilian: Yeah, amackera asked.|
|taxilian||16:09||oh, didn't see it|
|kalev||16:09||just fix antiix so I can go to bed and stop nagging :P|
|taxilian||16:09||kalev: fixed =]|
|taxilian||16:09||sleep well and wake|
|nirvdrum||16:09||So, in this case it would read "after having a company contact I" (after removing "Georg and"). That doesn't sound right. A company would contact "me."|
|amackera||16:09||nirvdrum: thanks, i see now|
amackera: What's funny is for years people used "X and me" incorrectly. Like "X and me went to the mall." I think they got beaten so badly into saying "X and I" that it's pretty common for people to use "X and I" incorrectly :-P
"About the time I publish this blog post, FireBreath 1.2 will be released." seems like a strange phrasing to me.
But, I guess it's technically fine.
|taxilian||16:09||I'll look at rewording it
I added a bit to that section, btw, if you refresh
|nirvdrum||16:09||General comments: some words are cased strangely. Reading "Browser Plugin" rather than "browser plugin" made it seem like it was a formal name.
The use of the comma for separating thousands in the numbers is a bit inconsistent
Periods at the end of bullet points is a bit inconsistent.
The section on authors leads with you talking about you and George, then thanking "others" and providing a list of what seem to be "others", but you and Georg are at the top :-)
Might want to rephrase a bit.
And for my contributions, maybe strike me or move me with the other list. As it stands, it looks like I get special attention for doing the last amount :-P
Otherwise, the narrative is excellent.
Pacing is very good.
Informative but not self-indulgent.
And the lessons learned are great.
I get involved with a lot of projects in one way or another, and I think your list is spot-on. And I think your stewardship of the project is amongst the best I've come across.
Despite having limited time.
I'll comment to that effect when it goes live.
|taxilian||16:09||thank you; I consider that a very high complement
(reading through your suggestions and making changes)
|nirvdrum||16:09||No worries. I'm thorough on that stuff and some of it is subjective, so feel free to ignore whatever you disagree with.|
|taxilian||16:09||good point on the "others" thing. I'll remove Georg and I. I guess I got caught up with "list of who did what"
oh, I do. hadn't you noticed? =]
|nirvdrum||16:09||I think it's cool to have you guys there. You just might have to change the lead-in.
I'm glad you did start up an IRC channel, too.
The email list is a great resource, but it's nice to interact with other Firebreath users and be able to ping people quickly if need be.
I have added something to that effect to the post
|taxilian||17:09||amackera, kalev, nirvdrum: I am impatient and I want to deploy 1.2. The changelog is done. See any reason not to do so now?|
|amackera||17:09||go for it :)|
|taxilian||17:09||changelog is up
let me know if I missed anything
|amackera||17:09||Yeah looks good
I hate how the wiki automatically adds '?' after things it thinks should be wiki pages
I'm pulling down a clean copy to tag it
the downloads are up
now just need to update the project summary
… which I'll do in a few minutes at my next class
|amackera||18:09||well i've got to push out a release at work for tomorrow, congrats on the FB release :)|
|taxilian||19:09||post post post post post places =]|
|nirvdrum||19:09||From a marketing POV, it'd be better to post tomorrow when people are online.|