| ajayp |
09:10 |
hi taxilian
@taxilian: are you available for a short chat now?
just wanted to say i shall start R&D in the areas you need, very soon..
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| maksim |
13:10 |
hi guys
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| taxilian |
13:10 |
'morning
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| maksim |
14:10 |
hey there
i run a site called airpair.com, and we need some paid help with firebreath
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| taxilian |
14:10 |
what kind of help are you looking for?
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| maksim |
14:10 |
the current need is for 1-3 hrs of work over video chat and screen sharing.. at $70/hour
here are the details on what we need: http://www.airpair.com/review/524d1884a42aa002000000d8
outside of this immediate need, we are looking to get firebreath experts on the airpair platform in general
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| taxilian |
14:10 |
hmm. trying to think who in here has the wix experience; is that your main concern?
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| maksim |
14:10 |
airpair is a marketplace that matches customers with tech experts for on-demand help via video and screen sharing. as an expert, you let yourself with your minimum hourly rate, and have no obligation to help with any request unless you think it sounds interesting
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| taxilian |
14:10 |
does sound like a cool site
now, you are aware of Chrome's stated goal to drop NPAPI support by the end of next year?
nirvdrum have you had any new contact with Google about PPAPI, btw?
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| nirvdrum |
14:10 |
Sorry, I haven't pinged anyone yet. It's on my list though.
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| taxilian |
14:10 |
who was it that you were suggesting I might contact?
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| maksim |
14:10 |
taxilian: i am not sure the customer is aware of the NSAPI obsolescence plans. this type of advice is part of the value they'd get by jumping on a video call with a firebreath expert
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| taxilian |
14:10 |
maksim there are probably several people on the google group that could fill the requirements. That's about half my normal minimum hourly rate and I'm really swamped in the timeframe specified
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| maksim |
14:10 |
ok, cool
i'll look there
hmm
what if the rate was $170/hr.. would you be interested in spending 1-3 hours on this?
:)
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| taxilian |
14:10 |
at that rate I might be able to find 1-3 hours; it would depend on the time of day, my time
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| maksim |
14:10 |
it's something the customer wants help with urgently so i think they can pay more if this help can arrive sooner
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| taxilian |
14:10 |
haven't done the time zone conversion yet
=]
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| maksim |
14:10 |
haha ok
let me bring that up
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| taxilian |
14:10 |
I just have a lot of time constraints; that's the main reason my rates are so high these days. I used to do $70 / hour pretty often, but I just don't have much time anymore so I have to convince the wife that it's time well spent =]
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| maksim |
14:10 |
yea, understood
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| taxilian |
14:10 |
on the other hand, I wrote the MSI integration and I wrote firebreath
so presumably I can probably figure out what may be going on as quickly as anyone
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| nirvdrum |
14:10 |
taxilian: I sent you the Twitter handle for the Chrome security guy that's made the call to yank NPAPI. He was fielding questions on suitable replacements. I don't know him though.
I have friends at Google that work on Selenium though and they probably could find me a PPAPI contact.
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| maksim |
14:10 |
taxilian: is this the google group you were talking about: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/firebreath-dev
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| taxilian |
14:10 |
maksim yes it is
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| maksim |
14:10 |
ahh ok. i'm gonna post this on there if that's cool. also contacting the customer to see if they'd be willing to pay more (it's 10pm there already)
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| taxilian |
14:10 |
that's just fine
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| nirvdrum |
14:10 |
taxilian: I just emailed one of my Google friends.
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| taxilian |
14:10 |
cool. let me know
if they are at all open to us just adding PPAPI support to FireBreath that would be awesome
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| MIDIMan_ |
15:10 |
I am still a bit confused about certain aspects of this whole plugin thing. I was hoping someone can help answer some questions about it's interaction with JS
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| taxilian |
15:10 |
okay
like what?
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| MIDIMan_ |
15:10 |
How does the plugin handoff information to the JS and vice-versa?
like if I want to send "0xAA" to JS for it to use, how would I do that?
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| taxilian |
15:10 |
there is no good way to send binary data
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| MIDIMan_ |
15:10 |
So only ASCII?
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| taxilian |
15:10 |
UTF8 strings, numbers, booleans, and javascript objects
the most common way to get data between them is to expose a method to javascript that you call from javascript and it returns whatever information you need
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| MIDIMan_ |
15:10 |
Okay. From my C and ASM coding background, I'm not to sure what that means, but I will check with my web-dev man. Thanks
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| taxilian |
15:10 |
have you read the getting started pages?
looked at the tutorials at all?
it's pretty self explanatory if you just take a few minutes to look at the provided materials
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| MIDIMan_ |
15:10 |
I have. They are great, but there is some small detail somewhere that is preventing me from seeing the whole big picture
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| taxilian |
15:10 |
if you could ask more specific questions about what you want to know I can try to help
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| MIDIMan_ |
15:10 |
I am just trying to pass data from hardware to a web app over USB
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| taxilian |
15:10 |
right, but what is it that you are confused about?
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| MIDIMan_ |
15:10 |
I need an explanation as if I am a 5 year old, I already know how to get my data into the plugin via HID. Now to get it to JavaScript
But you mentioned exposing a method for the JS to use
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| taxilian |
15:10 |
so you can either create a JSAPI method, or you can fire an event
how do you *want* to get it there?
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| MIDIMan_ |
15:10 |
Ideally? something like: send_to_javascript(*command*, *data*)
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| taxilian |
15:10 |
probably what you want, then, is an event
http://www.firebreath.org/display/documentation/Firing+Events+from+JSAPI
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| MIDIMan_ |
15:10 |
Yea, I read that. I suppose I need to take the "trust me, just to this and it will work" way about it instead of fulling knowing what each character ect means
Thanks Taxilian!
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| taxilian |
15:10 |
… or he could ask some specific questions, and I'd try to help
ahh, well
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| kylehuff |
15:10 |
I suspect that he was over 50... MIDI has been dead for a long time...
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| taxilian |
15:10 |
lol
no, these days it just runs over USB
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| kylehuff |
15:10 |
to a browser...
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